Troops Are Beginning To Refuse Unlawful Orders

By The Tea-party Tribune

It’s starting to happen. Troops are beginning to refuse to follow unlawful orders, such as taking away weapons from U.S. citizens or orders to kill Americans.

Excerpted from the complete article below:

….Stein’s new trouble started over a recent discussion on his personal page in which he said he wouldn’t follow orders from the president.

The discussion centered on an investigation and possible charging of troops for accidentally burning copies of the Quran, the Muslim holy book, in Afghanistan.

“I said I wouldn’t follow the orders,” Stein acknowledged. “But what I also said —- and what wasn’t included in the complaint that was sent —- is that I said I wouldn’t follow unlawful orders, such as taking away weapons from U.S. citizens or orders to kill Americans.”

Once they begin to understand that Obama/Soetoro is an unlawful and ineligible President and Commander in Chief, they will begin to stand down from all orders as they realize that the authority of the officers above them originate with the unlawful CinC, so that all orders become unlawful – thus exempting them from the protections of the Geneva Convention should they choose to follow them into battle.

The enlisted oath calls for upholding and defending the Constitution FIRST!

All the more reason to spread the word about the findings of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse: The POTUS is ‘living a lie’, and is a usurper of the Office of POTUS.

Neil

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Source: NCTimes.com

By: Mark Walker

Posted: March 5th, 2012

Freedom of speech and military order may be on a collision course at Camp Pendleton over a Marine’s Facebook page that is highly critical of President Barack Obama.

The Marine, Sgt. Gary Stein, said Monday that he is under investigation by base officials for posting comments on his personal Facebook page that say he would not follow orders issued by the president.

Stein, 26, of Temecula, is also the founder of an Armed Forces Tea Party Patriots Facebook page, which prompted Marine Corps officials to warn him in 2010 about his political activities.

Stein said officials indicated on Monday that he may be charged with violating a provision of the Uniform Code of Military Justice addressing “good order and discipline in the armed forces, or conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.”

“I’ve had better days,” Stein said after meeting with his commanders. “They’ve read me my rights and said I made disloyal comments about the president, and are now questioning whether I can even run the page.”

A Marine Corps spokeswoman said Stein has not been charged with any violation and had no immediate information about the investigation that Stein said is under way.

Two years ago, Stein was counseled by base officials to be cautious about any blatant endorsements of candidates, the tea party or using his uniform in any way to influence an election.

Stein, a staunch opponent of Obama who does not believe the president was born in the United States and calls his birth certificate a fraud, first launched the tea party page as a protest against Obama’s health care legislation.

That page has nearly 10,000 followers, and most of its comments are anti-Obama.

Stein’s new trouble started over a recent discussion on his personal page in which he said he wouldn’t follow orders from the president.

The discussion centered on an investigation and possible charging of troops for accidentally burning copies of the Quran, the Muslim holy book, in Afghanistan.

“I said I wouldn’t follow the orders,” Stein acknowledged. “But what I also said —- and what wasn’t included in the complaint that was sent —- is that I said I wouldn’t follow unlawful orders, such as taking away weapons from U.S. citizens or orders to kill Americans.”

That part of his posting has since been removed, Stein said.

He said he believes that the complaint started with a senior enlisted Marine based at the Marine Air Ground Combat Center at Twentynine Palms.

Stein, a native of Bullhead City, Ariz., said he respects the office of the president, “but at times I do not respect the decisions and policies of the president.”

He said his commanders began questioning him last week.

“They were talking to me about like a father would to a son, but today it turned and they read me rights,” said Stein, who works as a weather forecaster at Camp Pendleton in its operations division.

A veteran of one combat deployment to Iraq, Stein said he’s also being questioned for posting a video about a Marine recruit losing his job at an area hardware store.

Stein said the recruit needed time off work to complete some pre-enlistment training, but was instead told he was being dismissed.

“That’s now also come up as an issue,” he said.

Stein said he will fight any attempt to muzzle him.

“I think we have a disease in the military that says because we don the uniform, we lose our First Amendment rights,” said Stein, who is married and has a 4-year-old daughter. “I think they are being squashed right now, and I think some people are taking some orders and regulations out of context.

“I’m prepared to fight to the end.”

When he got in trouble two years ago, Stein vowed “not go off on wild tangents like I did before.”

Gary Solis, a military law expert, said Stein could well be in trouble for saying he would not follow a command from the president.

But the matter could also be a test of social media policy and how far troops can go in expressing their views on such sites, said Solis, a former Marine Corps judge and prosecutor who teaches and writes extensively on military law.

“We’re in new territory with regard to that,” Solis said. “But what it probably comes down to is (whether) he made his comments while identifying himself as a U.S. Marine. As a private citizen he can say anything he wants, but First Amendment rights can be circumscribed in the military.”

Source: NCTimes.com

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