Human And Dinosaur Evidence From Central & South America

Colima Bottle

This aritfact from the Colima culture dates to roughly the time of Christ at between 200 BC. and 300 AD. The Colima people are known for having made exceptional redware ceramics that are nearly unparalelled in the ancient art world. The figure measures 12 3/4 inches tall and shows a man with a club in his left hand and a shield in his right hand. The strange part is the creature grabbing the man from behind. Many researchers have been unable to identify the animal and have concluded it must be a Caiman, a large Crocodialian species from South America. Yet the figure does not resemble a Caiman nearly as much at it does another type of reptile. The creature on the sculpture most strongly resembles a Theropod dinosaur such as a Tyrannosaurus.

The long neck, large eyes and teeth, and long tail, along with it’s bipedal stance and “hands” all point to the creature being a Theropod dinosaur instead of a Caiman, indicating the Colima people of Mexico were familiar with these animals at the time of Christ.

Cocle’ Indian vase.

This vase made by Cocle’ Indians of Panama and is dated to A.D. 1330-1520. The image on the vase depicts what looks to be a stylized image of a Pterosaur. The discoverer Hyatt Verrill noticed to striking similarityh and said the creature had ” Beak-like jaws armed with sharp teeth, wings with two curved claws, short, pointed tail, reptilian head crest or appendages, and strong hind feet with five-clawed toes on each”. It seems clear that the Cocle’ Indians must have seen these creatures alive to portray them so accurately as if living animals, and not from fossils as many assert.

Dinosaur figurine from Acambaro, Mexico at the foot of El Toro mountain.

The radiocarbon dating given for the figurines, which include things besides dinosaurs such as races of people from around the world, were between 6,500-1,500 years old. This however does not give a fully accurate assesment of when the statues were made. However, once the scientists that were dating the figures discovered what they were actually dating they immediately retracted their statements regarding the age of the figures.

Many have claimed the collection of statues is nothing but a fake, backing up their claims with curious statements such the fact that very few of the clay figurines were broken and that they appeared very clean. However, many artifacts have been discovered in remarkable preservation, and the desert environment is one of, if not the best environments to preserve artifacts over long periods of time.Aside from this, it seems very illogical and unlikely that the many tens of thousands of figurines were all recent forgeries by people with no knowledge of dinosaurs whom immediately sought to bury the treasures they had made and leave them to be discovered without any way to claim financial gain upon their discovery.

Acambaro Sauropods.

More Acambaro figurines. The 2 in this picture seem to best depict sauropod type dinosaurs. One of which is in a reared up stance that is likely to be unknown to anyone ignorant of Dinosaurs. Also, the one reared up seems to have dermal spines on it’s neck, a feature unknown of Sauropods until the 1990′s.

Acambaro Apatosaurus.

An Acambaro piece that seems to depict an Apatosaurus, a type of Sauropod that although famous, was little understood when first discovered. The figurine also depicts it with a long, narrow head. Until the 1970′s it was thought that Apatosaurus had a short, box shaped head, yet these figurines were discovered long before this was known or corrected.

Acambaro Plesiosaur.

Here is another figurine from the Acambaro collection. This particular one is clearly depicting a plesiosaur. It even shows scales on the animal as well as other anatomical features that are all correct.

There have been over 50,000 figurines excavated from Acambaro, Mexico. Many of which depict dinosaurs.

The figurines depict specific species. This one appears to be an Iguanadon. It is depicted anatomically correctly, something that has only been established in recent years, yet this clay figurine was made long before such knowledge…How curious…

Acambaro Dinosaur.

This figurine from Acambaro, Mexico is one of many that were first discovered at the base of a mountain in 1945 by archeologists.This particular piece strongly resembles a Prosauropod, a type of Dinosaur not typically known of to people not knowledgeable about Dinosaurs. It has a long tail, neck, and skull, and shorter forelimbs than hind limbs. All of which are features of Prosauropods.

Acambaro Stegosaur.

A terracotta figure of a what very well resembles a Stegosaurus from Acambaro, Mexico. The piece is actually broken at the tails’ base and on one of it’s legs, possibly from excavation or natural causes that occured while entombed in the earth. It also appears unfinished or possibly just not as well made as others. The question remains, how could people have made such a piece of artwork without knowing what the aniaml looked like since fossil remains are buried deep and rarely ever have all the animals bones together?

Acambaro Dinosaur.

This particular clay figure from the Acambaro collection seems to be an attempt to portray either a Stegosaurus or a Dimetrodon. It is unclear since the tip of the figures tail is missing. Based on the teeth however it may be a Dimetrodon, a reptile believed to have lived before the dinosaurs.

Acambaro Ankylosaur.

This is another clay model from Acambaro. It strongly resembles an Ankylosaurus. As with many of the Acambaro figurines, this one depicts a species of Dinosaur in great detail including an armored back and a tail with a club tip.

Acambaro Pterosaur.

This is another clay figurine from the Acambaro, Mexico collection. This particular one is an obvious attempt to depict a Pterosaur of some kind. Although it is not fully anatomically correct, it may be since they were most likely never seen up close enough or often enough to develop a clear knowledge of their anatomy. What the creature is however is clear, and it is modled in much the same manner as Pterosaurs are in many other cultures and forms of art throughout history.

Acambaro Collection.

There are over 50,000 figurines from Acambaro, Mexico. There are numerous things depicted such as humans and even demonic creatures. However a large number of the items are replicas of Dinosaurs. It is clear that if Dinosaurs went extinct millions of years ago these indian peoples could not have known what they looked like.

Decorated Acambaro Stone.

This stone plaque was found along with the many clay figurines of the Acambaro collection. On the stone is picture a snake in the grass on the front, a bird on the top, a walking bird on the opposite end as the snake, and in the middle is a creature that strongly resembles a dinosaur.

Nazcan vase.

This piece of Nazcan pottery was unearthed in Peru. It shows a warrior fighting what seems to be a sauropod dinosaur. The Nazca culture is dated to between 100-800 A.D.

Nazcan clay water vase.

This Nazcan vase also depicts what mostly resembles a type of sauropod dinosaur. Including spines down the length of the back. Modern science didn’t know that sauropod dinosaurs had such dermal spines until recent years, yet these ancient depictions clearly show them.

Nazcan Dino pottery.

The creature shown on this ancient Nazcan vase is some sort of reptilian monster. It may depict what is known as a Postosuchus, considered an ancestor to the Dinosaurs. As if these art works didn’t already upset Evolutionary time frames enough.

Patagonian Map.

This old Patagonian map shows what appears to be natives hunting giant reptilian monsters that resemble dinosaurs. One creature has a long neck and may be a Plesiosaur, a creature that has been spotted in Patagonia on several ocassions. The other looks more like a Theropod dinosaur walking on two legs, there might be two of them together.

Nazcan water pot.

Nazcan pottery with a dinosaur on it. This piece is dated to between 400-700 AD. The animal looks like a baby Sauropod, something science didn’t have knowledge of until recent times and still understands very little.

Water pot creatures’ head.

A shot of the animals head. This creature seems to more resemble some type of Sauropod more than any other type of animal.

Peruvian textile.

A Peruvian burial cloth depicting dinosaurs that has been found in the same tombs as the Ica burial stones. The animals appear to be Ceratopsian dinosaurs, maybe Triceratops.

Peruvian dino vase.

Peruvian pottery from the Moche tribe that shows dinosaurs. The Moche culture is dated to between 100 and 800 A.D. This is much later than Evolutionary datings for Dinosaurs yet the Moche people had clear knowledge of such animals as can be seen by the Sauropod on this vase.

Moche vase

A vase from the Moche indian tribe of Peru. It is adorned with a clear depiction of a long necked dragon with spines alogn it’s back and even it’s throat.

The Ica stones of Peru.

In the 1960′s Dr. Javier Cabrera recieved an odd stone for his birthday. He later identified the strange animal depicted on the stone as an extinct species of fish. As the years went by Dr. Cabrera continued to purchase more and more stones from a farmer named Basilio Uschuya, after the farmer stated he had found a number of them. Dr. Cabrera’s collection now is over 15,000 stones in many different sizes with many different images. Basilio said he found the stones in a cave along the bank of a river after a great flood had come through and exposed the chamber. Time went on and the stones became a topic of interest to some res4earchers due to the images the stones portrayed leading some people to investigate them. In 1973 Basilio stated in an interview with Erik Von Daniken that he had faked the stones by copying the images from comic book, leading many to abandon research on the mysterious stones. However later in an interview with a German journalist Basilio recanted his admission to faking the stones saying that he had said he made them to avoid being imprisoned for illegally selling national artifacts.

In a 1977 documentary entitled Pathway to the Gods, Basilio made an Ica stone with a dentist drill and told the film makers he made the patina by baking them in cow dung, though this was never confirmed. The stones once again gained popularity when Dr. Cabrera decided to forego his medical career and open a museum dedicated to the stones in 1996. The same year another BBC documentary was released which prompted the Peruvian government to arrest Basilio Uschuya since it is illegal to sell archeological discoveries in Peru. Basilio told the government he had forged the stones himself saying it was easier to amke the stones than it was to farm, but stated he did not make all of the stones.

Dr. Cabrera determined that even if the man worked all day, every day, for his entire life that he could not have created all the stones. Since this, skeptics have chose to forego investigation of these relics and dismiss them as frauds since the farmer claimed to have carved them himself.

One of the largest problems with the assertion that the Ica stones are all fakes begins with the fact that they have been documented much farther back in history than Basilio’s account with them.

The first recorded mention of these perculiar stones is from a Spanish missionary, Father Simon who was journeying to the region of Ica in 1535. Father Simon accompanied Pizarro along the Peruvian coast and recorded his asstonishment upon seeing the stones. In 1562 Spanish explorers sent some of the strange stones back to Spain. Later, the Indian Chronicler Juan de Santa Cruz Pachacuti Llamqui wrote at the time of the Inca Pachacutec that many carved stones were found in the kingdom of Chincha in Chimchayunga, which was called Manco. Chimchayunga was known as the low country of the Peruvian central coast and is what is today known as Ica.

Centuries go by before more stones are documented more. In 1906 Javier Cabrera’s father was 9 years old when he witnessed his father (Javier’s grandfather) excavating tombs outside of Ica and finding several stones. Like other wealthy Peruvians, Javier’s grandfather had an extensive collection of Pre-Columbian artifacts. However these stones were lost or stolen long before Javier was born. In 1936 peasants plowing in a field uncovered a stone in the Salas region. The authorities attributed the stone to the Incas due to the preponderance of Incan relics in the Salas region.

The first official collectors of Ica stones were Pablo and Carlos Soldi who owned a plantation in Ocucaje. In 1955 stones were excavated from tombs on their property. Afterwards the brothers began to acquire more stones from hacqueros in Ocucaje. The Soldi brothers were personal eyewitnesses to stones being excavated with mummies and other artifacts from the tombs on their property and were the first to recognize the scientific importance of the stones. They requested official testing be done on the stones. They invited Peruvian archeologists to excavate for themselves or to witness excavations for themself. The archeologists declined sadly. Eventually the Soldi brothers had a large collection of stones as they were passionate archeology buffs and endeavoured to preserve the stones for the museums of Peru. In 1967 the Soldi brothers approached Dr. Javier Cabrera about purchasing the majority of their collection. Javier was skeptical because of the depictions on the stones but realised the significance of them and he eventually purchased 341 stones from the for the low sum of 7,000 old Peruvian Soles, the equivalent of $45 American. Javier had the stones stored in a room in his mansion where they stayed.

In the late 1950′s the currator of the Cullao Naval Museum, Commander Elias, acquired stones from hacqueros, including some who resided in Ocucaje. There were deposits of stones located roughly 20 miles south-southwest of Ica near Ocucaje and the Rio Ica (Ica River). The stones were documented to have been discovered in caves and graves. Having an intense interest in archeology, Commander Elias had approximately 300 stones displayed in the Naval Museum by 1973. The Regional Museum of Ica had a few stones from the tombs around Ica. When Carlos Soldi died in 1967 and Pablo in 1968, 114 of their stones were donated to the museum, some of which were on display in the 1960′s.

After official government testing Colonel Omar Chioino Carraza, the Director of the Peruvian Aeronautical Museum, declared he had no doubt about the stones’ authenticity. In 1974 he declared :

It seems certain to me…that they are a message from a very ancient people whose memory has been lost to history. They were engraved several thousand years ago. They’ve have been known in Peru for a long time and my museum has more than four hundred of them.

It is worth noting that the aeronautical museums collection was acquired from many locations across Peru and very few were from Ocucaje. An that a fair number of the engraved stones displyed images of dinosaurs on them.

Herman Buse stated that in 1961 there was a flooding of the Ica River and that a large number of stones had been uncovered. Hacqueros (tomb looters) have sold many of the engraved stones to museums and the Soldi brothers. This is where Basilio probably got many of his stones since he references stones being found after the river flooded and exposed them.

In the early 1960′s Santiago Agurto Calvo, who was a rector of the National University of Engineering, had a growing collection of the engraved stones. He never gave any of his stones to the Ica museum and the Calvo family still retains the collection in storage. Santiago published an article in the El Comercio newspaper in Lima about the fantastic images carved on the stones. He also submitted the stones to the National University of Engineering and the Maurico Hochschild Mining Company for scientific tests.

The archaeologist Alejandro Pezzio Asserto undertook official excavations in the ancient Paracas and Ica cemetaries of Max Uhle and Toma Luz. Alejandro was a trustee of the Ica museum and in charge of archaeological excavations int he cultural province of Ica. On two distinct occasions engraved stones were excavated from Pre-Hispanic tombs dating from 400 B.C. to 700 A.D. The stones in question were embedded in the side of the mortuary chamber of the tombs next to the mummies. In 1968 Alejandro published his work with descriptions and drawings of the engraved stones including descriptions and drawings of the stones. One stone depicted a five toed Llama that has supposedly been extinct for over 40 million years, another stone showed a bird in flight, and another depicted a species of fish that has been extinct for supposedly over 100 million years. These stones have since become part of the Colca Collection in the Ica Museum.

In 1966 Felix Llosa Romero presented Javier Cabrera with an engraved stone that had an image of a species of fish that has supposedly been extinct for many millions of years (this was the first stone Javier obtained and is often cited in most any account of the Ica stones, though rarely ever accurately). The stone given to Cabrera had been excavated from the Max Uhle and Toma Luz tomb sites near Ocucaje. Dr. Cabrera told Dennis Swift, the current leading authority ont he stones of Ica, that seeing the stone triggered an old memory of seeing a similar stone in 1936 when he was about 10. Being a distinguished Medical doctor he had already established the San Luis Gonzaga Ica National University and established the Casa de Cultura to preserve the engraved stones.

Since Dr. Cabrera’s involvement with the Ica stones Dr. Swift has learned much about the stones and their history and has documented much on them and written numerous articles and at least one book about the stones. He has had several stones tested at numerous facilities. The tests have all concluded that the authentic stones are clearly distinguishable from the fakes made with modern tools and that the authentic stones must be quite old judging from the microscopic analysis. Much more could be said of the history of the Ica stones, to read more about their history visit our Facebook page.

Though there have been faked Ica stones, they are easily distinguished by the fact that they lack patina in the carvings of the images whereas the genuine stones’ patina is constant all over the stone. In other words, the fake stones’ patina is on the rock surface since the rocks are genuine and natural but not in the images since they are recently carved since any carvings in recent times, at least the last several hundred years, would cut through the patina and remove it from where the cuts formed the images. The real stones have patina in the image engravings as well as the surface, meaning that the carvings are several hundred to thousand years old since the patina takes a long time to form, at least hundreds of years and perhaps longer. The faked stones also show the telltale signs of modern tools in the images such as metal flakes from saw blades or power tools, whereas the authentic stones show no such thing since they were made long before such instruments existed and have become glossed over with natural patina since they were carved.

The stones have passed every scientific test they were subjected to, and show a layer of patina, or desert varnish, that can only be made by being exposed to natural processes for a long time, yet undisturbed by human activity. On some stones, the patina is so thick and/or the stones so weathered that the images on the stone are obscured, having been worn off by natural processes. This means that though there are fake stones floating around, the stones from the Cabrera collection, as well as those excavated from tombs are indeed genuine, and that dismissal of all of the Ica stones as fakes is based on rumors and bias, not scientific scrutiny. Many skeptics discount the Ica Stones as being faked because the farmer admitted he made them and because there are some fakes. But the fakes are easily found out and the farmer would obviously say he faked them so he wouldn’t go to prison for life. Also the farmer eventually admitted that he had not made them several years later. It should also be noted that while some people claim that he made the stone for profit and made up the stories for money and later retracted his confession because he was paid, it is just as likely, perhaps more likely, that he confessed because he was paid, not the other way around.

“On January 28, 1969 I received word from Eric Wolf that the results of the laboratory analysis conducted by a Professor Frenchen and his assistants at the University of Bonn were available. The stones were andesite and were covered by a patina or film of natural oxidation which also covered the etchings, permitting one to deduce that they are very old.

“In view of the fact that the patina of oxidation that covered the stones proved the general but not precise antiquity of the engravings, and in view of the fact that precision could only be had by using the comparative methods of stratigraphy and paleontology, I requested authorization in April 1970 from the Patronato Nacionial de Arqueologia to carry out excavations in the appropriate zone. This institution alone had the power to authorize such excavations. On July 16, 1970, my request was refused. Thus the only means of dating the Engraved Stones of Ica was closed to me.”

In addition, several Ica Stones were discovered in unearthed tombs in the Ica region by archeologists in the 1960s, self-evidently authenticating these particular stones and bringing into question the almost universal dismissal of the Ica Stones in general:

“In 1968, the archeologist Pezzia Assereto, who had accompanied Agurto Calvo, published a book on the archeology of the province of Ica, in which he makes note of the discovery:

“Agurto was able after several attempts to find an engraved stone inside a tomb in the sector of Toma Luz of the Hacienda Callango del Valle in Ica on 20 August 1966… After informing the Museo Regional of Ica of such an important find, Agurto and I made another excavation on 11 September of the same year, in the hill called Uhle of the sector of La Banda in the Hacienda Ocucaje, and we found for the first time an engraved stone inside a tomb of the Paracas culture, a thing I was not expecting, but which proved, by association, the authenticity of these artifacts””
K. Doore (Ed); ‘Excerpts from “The Message of the Engraved Stones of Ica” by Javier Cabrera’

These stones depict many different things such as races of people, geography such as lost continents, animals such as dinosaurs and megafauna, alone and some interacting with man, man riding horses long before they were supposedly brought to America, astronomy with telescopes, complicated surgery such as transplants and C sections, brain surgery, heart transplants, and even sexual acts. The stones also show the same images as the famous Nazca lines. These representations are also accurate in that they display animal anatomy that is new to scientists such as frills on dinosaurs which were not known until 1992, the correct head positioning of Apatosaurus that until recently was wrong in museum amd art displays, the correct anatomy of Spinosaurus that was not known to scientists until this millenium, skin patterns on Dinosaurs that were not known until recent finds of fossilized dinosaur skin, correct nostril positioning on Brachiosaurus, and correct tail posture for many dinosaurs (given the room on the stone was ample). So if these stones were faked decades ago by uneducated and impoverished farmers in one of the worst places to live on Earth, why are they not based on incorrect information, even the kind that was considered accurate at the time by scientists?
Many of the stones show dinosaurs and man interacting with them. Some show people fighting dinosaurs, riding dinosaurs, being killed by or killing dinosaurs, and petting dinosaurs. It seems obvious that from the high degree of accuracy of the depictions of dinosaurs on these stones, that they could only be drawn from first hand experience, not from ancient people finding dinosaur fossils as some have suggested. The evidence of knowledge of skin patterns and correct physical anatomyis a great testiment to this fact since fossils are most often disassembled and just a few bones or even a single bone, rarely are fossils ever an even fairly complete skeleton.

Indeed these stones are the subject of much rumor and misinformation however thorough investigation of the facts leads one to the unavoidable conclusion that the carved stones of Ica, Peru are authentic Pre-Indian artifacts from a time when the native people lived alongside and interacted with large reptiles we now call Dinosaurs, and that these stones are a firm testament to the real history of life on this planet as is recorded in Scripture.

An Ica stone depicting a man riding an Apatosaurus.

The depiction of the skin texture and patterning on the dinosaurs on Ica stones is “dead on” as confirmed by every paleontologist that the stones were shown to. Since the discovery of fossilized dinosaur skin in 1992, it has been suggested that the large circles (not the small ones of which there are many more), would have most likely been located on the animals in places where the skin did not move as much, such as the side instead of near joints such as hips. This is how the circular patterning is shown on the animals on these stones.

On this Ica stone a man is shown riding a Triceratops.

Note that the textured skin shown on the animal was not known by scientists until 1992. Not to mention the amazing fact that this stone shows a warrior riding a Triceratops!
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