Q: The dream of someone wanting to rule the world is nothing new, obviously. History is littered with failed attempts to conquer the world and subjugate the population. How old is the dream for the ’NEW WORLD ORDER’ per se, by the Illuminati?
A: The Illuminati themselves teach that they have been around for centuries and centuries, even during Roman times, and that Alexander the Great was one of their “prototypes” in the ancient world, as was Hitler in modern times. But the Illuminati as we know it today was formed in the 17th century (out of Catholic roots, ie. the Knights Templar and Roscicrucianism). The idea of a modern ’One World Order’ became popular in the 1700’s with the ideas of Weishaupt and others, and they have been working towards this goal since the mid 18th century.
Q: Did the Illuminati manipulate societies throughout history, such a the Egyptian, Roman, British empire, etc. How far back does the history of the Illuminati stretch and were they always known as the Illuminati, or did they at times operate under different covers with the same goals?
A: The Illuminati SAY they date back to ancient Babylon on the Fields of Shinar around 3,900 B.C, give or take. But this is probably cult programming and boasting. They state that they are founded on the occult base of all ancient mystery religions and occult practices. But they actually seem to be descended from the Knights Templar during the medieval ages, and the Rosicrucian’s who were also founded back then. I myself have trouble knowing how much of the “cult history” I was taught as a child by my scholarship teachers was merely programming, and how much is accurate truth, so I cannot really be an objective source of information. Like any group, they tend to want to “idealize” their roots.
Q: Being as intelligent as they are, the Illuminati must know that empires and societies throughout history only lasted about 200 years, on average. Is this a natural life cycle, or was that duration and final downfall of empires coordinated? In other words, was the Illuminati responsible for failed empires? Did they purposely destroy societies and create new ones with the intention of securing a tighter grip on future governments?
A: During historical ’’set ups’’ that I saw as a child, used to teach the history of the group, supposedly behind the throne of all ancient and modern monarchies were Illuminist advisors and financing. They CLAIM to have manipulated history for the past 2,000 years. But I also believe that people have free choice, and that no one person or group can truly take into account the unpredictable: human nature and how they will respond.
I don’t really believe they did all that they have claimed to. At the same time, in the last 200 years, they have certainly had a profound influence at the international and governmental level, based on what I saw and heard when in the group.
Q: Svali, you said Illuminists are working hard for those goals and looking forward to the final implementation of the ’glorious New Order’, or world government, so that they can take part and be leaders in that society. At what point will the Illuminati be satisfied with their achievements, and what is their vision of that ’glorious New Order’? What shape, form or system will it have, what political infrastructure? Dictatorial, communist, democratic? Will there be an end to their struggle for global control?
A: I was taught that during the coming “Order” or Government, that it would at first be a heavily dictatorial and military government. This is why there is extensive training of covert military forces in all ranks, to implement this policy. Why? Because not everyone will welcome their ’’enlightened’’ rule, and there will be those who oppose them.
Their army is being trained in crowd control techniques and camps will be set up to send dissenters to. Think of Hitler’s Germany, which was a prototype. The government will be highly authoritative and centralized in the Supreme World Council, with the national councils and regional councils under its control.
The implementation of a semi-Marxist, or military socialism, will then follow (Marx was an Illuminist, and was told what to write in his treatises), coordinated under the umbrella of the regional and national councils. Financial power will be held at the national and international levels. People will be asked to work at reduced wages for the glory of serving the New Order, although compensation will be based on loyalty and performance as time goes on (much as in Marxist and Leninistic Russia).
Once the dissenters are subjugated and controlled, they believe that there will no longer be a need to try for world control. They will have it. They will then begin breeding programs to ensure that only the best and brightest reproduce; sterilization of those considered poor genetic specimens will begin. They are firm believers in ’’selective breeding’’, just as Hitler and his scientists were. It is sad, but true, that this is what they teach. Children will be tested for their psychic ability and will go through special teaching to increase their abilities, much as they do now covertly, only it will be open.
Q: Does the Illuminati have natural enemies or predators, or competitors with the same goals of global control?
A: Not that I know of. They are very aware of the Knights Templar, and OTO [Ordo Templi Orientis, a Catholic secret society that is a sister group to the Templar Knights and is involved in lots of occult and illegal activities as well], and while the two groups are split in some areas, they are very sympathetic and share resources with each other. The only true enemy that they see is the Christian church, which opposes all that they do. Because the Illuminati are based in occult spirituality, they despise any group that espouses Judaism or fundamental Christianity as being their mortal enemies. This is because Christians engage in spiritual warfare that hurts their cause.
Q: What’s your view on the role of China and Russia in light of the latest developments, the Russia-Sino political alignment against the U.S., given the insight you had when you were still part of the Illuminati?
A: Russia will be the military base and powerhouse of the group, since their military commanders (Illuminist) are considered the best in the world, and very, very disciplined. China, because of its roots in oriental occultism, and its large population, will also be considered a higher power than the US. But again, the real power will reside in Europe, according to what I was taught when part of the group.
China will administer the Eastern region and Russia the North. Again, I am sharing what I was taught, but please be aware that it may have been ’’programming’’. One of the most difficult tasks I have encountered since getting out has been to evaluate how much of what I was told is truth, and how much idealism and cult programming. I am NOT an authority on this group, and I held a very low position in it when I was part of it. I sat the leadership council on the San Diego metropolitan area for several years, but had little to do with the international arena.